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PostSubject: Shield Defiance   Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:58 pm

Name: Shield Defiance
Kind of Skill: Expertise
Description: Val passes through barriers, forcefields, and shields of any kind.
Ability:
Allows Val to pass through forcefields, barriers, and shield. Also allows attacks to go through them.
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Rarity: Val only, could teach.
Rank Required: C
Class Required: Environ
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:08 pm

now now, this is a no-no. o.o
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:45 pm

what if i remove the 'attacks' part.
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:06 pm

that would work. but the skill itself...not at F-rank!!! o.o
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:57 am

D-rank perhaps?
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:21 am

it says forcefields, shields and barriers of any kind...

i'd say C.
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:28 pm

okay Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:55 pm

No, that would mean any defense would be virtually useless. This is modulated god-modding. If Val can pass through any shield, then Khalida should be able to release Zenevas right now. Not even C0rank or eve S rank should be able to do that. The only compromise is that he can pass through the shield of any one of LOWER level. Also Khalida has killed 3 S rank monsters. Where does she level up?
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:15 pm

Zenny has a point. Val, any say?

Hmm...3 S-Class monsters? Post it at the Rank-Up in the Character Creation Forum.

To be more...er...fair, let us (Monster Masters) not rank-up with the use of monsters. o.o
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:53 pm

how 'bout i pass through shields of lower rank or same rank.

i still get this at C-rank? or S?
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:19 pm

still C. if it's at S then you won't get to use this earlier. xD
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:22 pm

so, approved?
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:42 pm

i'll only approve this once you go C rank.
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:16 am

This is still unfair. I will not recognize this skill unless its rules are extremely precise. What if someone makes a Shield against Shield Defiance? Maybe its better if someone makes all the apps and people have to meet their prerequisites to gain them instead of everyone having an arms race and making steadily extremely unfair apps.
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:16 pm

@Zenny: it will take a huge amount of time to do that

hmm...what if Val is only able to pass through any kind of shield/barrier ONCE per Topic? I mean, he can pass through any shield or barrier but only once per kind, and can't be repeated with no recharge (since there are many kinds of shields). would this be good?
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:08 pm

5 posts recharge and limit.
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:39 pm

wew
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:38 am

that'll do but you can't pass through virtually any shield all the time. o.o

it'll be better if Val can pass through any kinds of shields, but only once per kind. o.o

(example...)
(post 1: fire shield. pass through)
(post 2: ice shield. pass through)
(post 3: fire shield. can't)
(post 4: ice shield. can't)
(post 5: force field. pass through)

it sounds more reasonable since this ability lets you defy the reason of any shield's existence. o.o
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:57 pm

like 1 kind of sheld per post.. okay, but when my 5 recharge is done i get to pass throught them again..

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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:55 am

not necessarily 1 shield per post. it's like, on those 5 posts (not recharge), you can't pass through the same shield twice.
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:00 pm

yes.. but when the recharge ends, i get to pass through those shields again.
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:10 pm

yep. approved. use this only at C-rank. I'll move this to the Approved section once you go there.
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:16 am

Rhanta.
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:21 am

still, I think that is still OP...

hmm.. what if we create barriers/shields with layers.. something like

frost--steel-fire-force

would it still go through? Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Shield Defiance   Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:57 am

It's already too restricted. What more do you want? It's not OP. I go through 1 kind of shield at a time.
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